Elevator Gate, Again

Those who think RW is making a big deal out of nothing

Plug these numbers into your paradigm.

One in 4 women are sexually assaulted
The average man who commits sexual assault attacks about 7 women.

(a different set of numbers with slightly different critera puts it at 1 in 6 women are sexually assaulted and the average assaulted attacks about 5 women. You may use those numbers if you prefer).

Now, do the math. You are standing in a group of 30 men. Please tell me the odds of one of them being someone that has committed or will commit sexual assault. You may use a calculator.


Now, go back and read the Schrodinger’s Rapist article, keeping the above numbers in your mind.

A man approaches you in an elevator. He has already displayed a willingness to ignore your boundaries and social cues to approach you in the first place, since you are not inviting approach at this time. He has also done so in a way that renders you isolated and trapped. How should you respond?

Now I want you to think about this aspect: Had she been raped in this situation, how many folks would have placed blame for the attack on her for being in the elevator with a strange man in the first place?

Do you get it yet?

© 2011, Within this mind. All rights reserved.

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About Kinda Strange

I am a student at the University of Phoenix majoring in information technology. This is where I come to babble incoherently…err…make notes, talk about things that catch my interest, share ideas, etc...
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One Response to Elevator Gate, Again

  1. http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/09/16/sexism-is-a-problem-we-should-address/#comments – comment 194

    I am not denying your numbers, but…


    …I always see such statistics tossed around and often made up on the spot,[o rly.] so I would love to have an authoritative source on the subject that I could refer to. Do you think you could tell me which peer-reviewed source you found those numbers in?

    so while you “always” see such statistics, you never bothered UNTIL THIS VERY MOMENT to look for references and sources yourself, did you? “Bring me a sammich source and it better be good.”

    But I feel in a mood for stuffing some jackhole’s arrogance back up ‘ir left nostril, so here you go.


    Cites and discusses:

    I have taken a look at two large-sample surverys of undetected rapists. One is Repeat Rape and Multiple Offending Among Undetected Rapists by David Lesak and Paul M. Miller, published in Violence and Victims, Vol 17, No. 1, 2002 (Lisak & Miller 2002). The other is Reports of Rape Reperpetration by Newly Enlisted Male Navy Personnel by Stephanie K. McWhorter, et al., published in Violence and Victims, Vol, 24, No. 2, 2009 (McWhorter 2009).

    6% of men in one study and 17% in the other SELF-REPORT rape attempts.

    Quoting myself from Skepchick in July:

    According to “Meet the Predators” which references men self-reporting their rape attempts, a sample of about 1900 male college students contained 120 who announced 438 attempted or completed rapes. Let’s say those rapes happened to the comparably sized female student population, and for the sake of argument, that any given woman was ‘only’ assaulted once. What would 438 rapes and sexual assaults among 2000 or so women work out to?

    22% of women.

    Men. Self-reporting. 22%.

    See also:

    Comment 197

    goofed on my “see also”. more from the peer-reviewed rape stats hoard:



    “Our findings indicate that about 20 million out of 112 million women (18.0%) in the U.S. have ever been raped during their lifetime. This includes an estimated 18 million women who have been forcibly raped, nearly 3 million women who have experienced drug-facilitated rape, and 3 million women who have experienced incapacitated rape.”